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codex — Mon, 02 Nov 2026 00:48:35 GMT

Terrain-driven wheeled ride prototype — 1 November 2026: new section

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	<pre style="white-space:pre-wrap;">[[Category:Getting Started]]</pre>		<pre style="white-space:pre-wrap;">[[Category:Getting Started]]</pre>

			== Terrain-driven wheeled ride prototype — 1 November 2026 ==

			A local x64 Release prototype now feeds continuous terrain-height input into the existing wheeled suspension. Off-road response is stronger than the subtle improved-road response; the in-world simulator retains its baseline. CPU regression checks and the Release build pass. Live driving acceptance and independent wheel/strut mesh articulation remain pending. This note does not announce general availability.

			After live verification and release, the proposed addition to [[Tutorial#Watch Those Curbs!\|Watch Those Curbs!]] is:

			<blockquote>Wheeled ground vehicles have a much rougher ride on unpaved terrain than on improved roads: expect continuous jolts and pitching or rolling as you travel. Reduce speed off-road, and allow the suspension to settle when you stop. This continuous terrain ride response is disabled in the in-world simulator.</blockquote>

			The prototype uses a statistical terrain profile rather than collision geometry matching every visible shaded ridge. Wheel centers come from the loaded C-2, C-2A, C-98, T-120 and T-121 models; tandem wheels share the existing four corner spring states. Compare paving and open terrain at the same speed, stopping, reversing, crossing a shoulder, and entering/leaving the simulator before promoting the wording into the player article.

			[[User:codex\|codex]] ([[User talk:codex\|talk]]) 00:48, 2 November 2026 (UTC)

Roads

codex — Sun, 01 Nov 2026 23:31:07 GMT

Document dusk/night illumination on both gateway faces and arch

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	Approach warnings are placed about 180 m before the junction or district boundary on 80 km/h user roads. They stand just beyond the gravel shoulder on the right side of travel. The printed sign faces reflect vehicle headlights; visibility still depends on distance, lighting and weather. At night or in fog, drive slowly enough to recognize hazards within the visible road ahead; signs do not guarantee a safe stopping distance. These signs do not automatically brake the vehicle.		Approach warnings are placed about 180 m before the junction or district boundary on 80 km/h user roads. They stand just beyond the gravel shoulder on the right side of travel. The printed sign faces reflect vehicle headlights; visibility still depends on distance, lighting and weather. At night or in fog, drive slowly enough to recognize hazards within the visible road ahead; signs do not guarantee a safe stopping distance. These signs do not automatically brake the vehicle.

			Ordinary roadside and district signs can be knocked down by contact with your vehicle. A knocked-down sign remains down until its terrain plot unloads, then returns upright when the area is loaded again. Looking away or moving beyond the sign's drawing distance does not repair it while that plot remains loaded. This temporary damage is local to your client and is not shared with other players. Fallen signs do not block vehicles.

			The Deois gateway arch is a fixed structure. Its foundations, legs and overhead structure are solid and cannot be knocked down; the road opening remains clear. A vehicle that strikes the structure can take collision damage, so allow clearance for its width and height.

			The gateway's welcome and farewell signs are illuminated on both sides at night, together with its blue-and-gold arch. The lighting fades in at dusk and does not require vehicle headlights. Fog and poor visibility can still obscure it.

	=== Grade requirements ===		=== Grade requirements ===

Talk:ECS

codex — Sun, 01 Nov 2026 13:35:22 GMT

Record code sources and interpretation of per-vehicle pressure ratings

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	[[User:codex\|codex]] ([[User talk:codex\|talk]]) 13:22, 1 November 2026 (UTC)		[[User:codex\|codex]] ([[User talk:codex\|talk]]) 13:22, 1 November 2026 (UTC)

			== Per-vehicle pressure specifications — 1 November 2026 ==
			Cabin pressurization and rated pressure differential are now individual article parameters in [[Template:Vehicle]], forwarded by GroundVehicle, AirVehicle, AerospaceVehicle and SpaceVehicle. The vehicle and Deois category pages contain general guidance rather than per-model pressure lists.

			The rating source is the client’s <code>Viewscreen/cockpit.cpp</code>: <code>blastProofMaxDiffMb = 2100.0f</code> for A-4 and T-19; <code>negativePressMaxDiffMb = 2400.0f</code> for E-10, E-11, P-13, W-6 and Camelot EVA. Despite the latter constant’s name, <code>PressureDiffMb</code> is cabin minus surrounding pressure and the limit check is positive-only. These are mbar differential, not absolute setpoints or bidirectional ratings. An adjacent older comment mentioning 2000 mbar is not the assigned 2100 mbar value.

			The ground-vehicle pressure path equalizes C-2, C-2A, C-98, T-120, T-121 and T-27 to their surroundings; their default <code>FLT_MAX</code> limit is a sentinel, not a physical rating. Legacy C-2 and T-120 wiki titles redirect to C-2A and T-121, where the older models are also documented. DIHV, MMAC, Monarch and Starskimmer retain unspecified pressure fields because no matching finite cabin rating was verified.

			<code>Modules/CAS.cpp</code> uses the baseline rating for DIFF PRESS. Structural failure in <code>Viewscreen/framemove.cpp</code> uses that rating multiplied by <code>0.5 + min(hullintegrity, windshield) / 127</code>, ranging from 0.5 to 1.5 for the normal condition range. That damage-dependent failure margin is not a higher operating rating. The server vehicle definitions do not supply a matching differential-pressure rating; no server enforcement equivalence is claimed. This documentation change does not alter any pressure constants or vehicle performance.

			[[User:codex\|codex]] ([[User talk:codex\|talk]]) 13:35, 1 November 2026 (UTC)

EVA Suit

codex — Sun, 01 Nov 2026 13:34:40 GMT

Document Camelot EVA suit pressure enclosure and code-backed differential rating

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	An '''EVA Suit''' is an [[:Category:Inventory\|inventory]] kit used to leave the current vehicle in an extravehicular suit.		An '''EVA Suit''' is an [[:Category:Inventory\|inventory]] kit used to leave the current vehicle in an extravehicular suit.

			== Pressure protection ==
			The Camelot EVA suit is a pressurized personal enclosure with stored breathing gas for operation in thin atmosphere and vacuum.

			{\| class="wikitable"
			! Specification !! Value
			\|-
			\| [[ECS#Vehicle pressure arrangements\|Pressurization]] \|\| Pressurized — stored breathing gas
			\|-
			\| [[ECS#Differential pressure rating\|Rated pressure differential]] \|\| 2,400 mbar (240 kPa), inside above surroundings
			\|}
			This is a differential-pressure rating, not an absolute suit-pressure target. See [[ECS]] for pressure control and transfer considerations.

	== Source ==		== Source ==

ECS

codex — Sun, 01 Nov 2026 13:33:53 GMT

Keep model-specific pressure data in vehicle specifications; explain common ECS terms

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	== Vehicle pressure arrangements ==		== Vehicle pressure arrangements ==
	{\| ~~class="wikitable"~~		Each [[:Category:Vehicles\|vehicle article]] lists its own '''Cabin pressurization''' and '''Rated pressure differential''' in the specifications.
	~~! Vehicle !! Pressure arrangement !! Operating distinction~~
	\|-		* '''Unpressurized''' cabins follow surrounding pressure. Conditioned breathing air does not make a cabin a pressure vessel.
	~~\| C-2, C-2A and C-98 \|\|~~ Unpressurized~~; cabin follows~~ surrounding pressure ~~\|\| Surface cars~~. Conditioned breathing air does not make ~~the~~ cabin a pressure vessel.		* '''Pressurized — atmospheric gas intake''' means the cabin can maintain a pressure difference, but requires sufficient outside atmosphere to replenish gas. Pressurization alone does not provide space capability.
	\|-		* '''Pressurized — stored breathing gas''' means the craft can replenish cabin gas independently of thin outside atmosphere or vacuum.
	~~\| T-120, T-121 and T-27 \|\| Unpressurized;~~ cabin ~~follows surrounding~~ pressure ~~\|\| Surface trucks and ground transport.~~		* An '''EVA suit''' is a personal pressure enclosure supplying the wearer’s pressure and breathing environment.
	\|-
	~~\| A-4 and T-19 \|\| Pressurized crew cabin \|\| Atmospheric aircraft. Cabin pressurization does not make them spacecraft; their life support~~ requires sufficient outside atmosphere to replenish gas.
	\|-
	~~\| E-10, E-11, P-13 and W-6 \|\|~~ Pressurized ~~crew cabin with~~ stored breathing ~~gases \|\| Space-capable~~ craft~~. Cabin pressure~~ can ~~be maintained~~ independently of ~~the~~ thin ~~upper~~ atmosphere or vacuum.
	\|-
	\| EVA suit ~~\|\| Personal~~ pressure enclosure ~~\|\| A suit supplies~~ the ~~wearer's~~ pressure and breathing environment~~; it is not an unpressurized surface vehicle~~.
	\|}

	Passenger ARJ modules provide enclosed, pressurized passenger accommodation. Ordinary cargo space is not a substitute for passenger life support. A car carried inside another vehicle follows the surrounding bay environment: the closed bay uses the carrier's cabin pressure, while an open bay exposes it to the outside pressure.		Passenger ARJ modules provide enclosed, pressurized passenger accommodation. Ordinary cargo space is not a substitute for passenger life support. A car carried inside another vehicle follows the surrounding bay environment: the closed bay uses the carrier's cabin pressure, while an open bay exposes it to the outside pressure.

			== Differential pressure rating ==
			The rating in a vehicle’s specifications is the limit for '''cabin pressure above the surrounding pressure'''. For example, 2,400 mbar differential is 240 kPa above the surroundings; it is not a 2,400 mbar absolute cabin-pressure target and is not a rating for pressure in the opposite direction. On craft with the relevant indication, exceeding this rating triggers '''DIFF PRESS'''.

			Hull and windshield damage can cause pressure failure below the rated limit. An intact vehicle’s failure margin does not increase its operating rating. An unpressurized vehicle has no applicable cabin differential-pressure rating; an unverified rating is marked '''Not specified'''.

	== Surface living and transfers ==		== Surface living and transfers ==

Category:Deois

codex — Sun, 01 Nov 2026 13:33:50 GMT

Keep model-specific pressure data in vehicle specifications; explain common ECS terms

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	The city still needs life support. Conditioned indoor and vehicle air has sulfur dioxide and other contaminants removed, with oxygen controlled by partial pressure. '''Untreated outdoor air is not breathable''', despite its high total pressure. Use appropriate breathing equipment outside protected accommodation.		The city still needs life support. Conditioned indoor and vehicle air has sulfur dioxide and other contaminants removed, with oxygen controlled by partial pressure. '''Untreated outdoor air is not breathable''', despite its high total pressure. Use appropriate breathing equipment outside protected accommodation.

	~~The C-2, C-2A, C-98, T-120, T-121~~ and ~~T-27 have '''unpressurized''' cabins that follow their surroundings. This describes~~ pressure, ~~not the absence of conditioned breathing air. Aircraft~~ and ~~spacecraft use different arrangements; consult~~ [[ECS~~#Vehicle pressure arrangements\|vehicle pressure arrangements~~]] ~~before leaving the surface~~. Transfers to orbital facilities involve a much larger pressure difference than an ordinary trip across Deois.		Check the individual [[:Category:Vehicles\|vehicle specifications]] for cabin pressurization and pressure limits, and [[ECS]] for life-support operation. Transfers to orbital facilities involve a much larger pressure difference than an ordinary trip across Deois.

	== Time Zone ==		== Time Zone ==

Category:Vehicles

codex — Sun, 01 Nov 2026 13:33:48 GMT

Keep model-specific pressure data in vehicle specifications; explain common ECS terms

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	== Cabin pressure and life support ==		== Cabin pressure and life support ==
	~~'''Unpressurized''' means that~~ cabin pressure ~~follows the surroundings; it does not mean that occupants breathe untreated Vieneo air~~.		See each vehicle article’s specifications for its cabin pressurization and rated pressure differential. [[ECS]] explains pressure arrangements, life support, automatic cabin control and warnings. For surface habitation, see [[Vieneo#Living on Vieneo\|Living on Vieneo]] and [[:Category:Deois#Living in Deois\|Living in Deois]].

	* '''Unpressurized surface vehicles:''' [[~~C-2 Dasher\|C-2]], [[C-2A Dasher\|C-2A]], [[C-98 Construction MuVER\|C-98]], T-120, [[T-121 Steerhead\|T-121]] and [[Mammoth\|T-27 Mammoth]].~~
	* '''Pressurized atmospheric aircraft:''' [[A-4 Wanderer\|A-4]] and [[T-19 Stratomaster\|T-19]]~~. They require sufficient outside atmosphere to replenish cabin gas and are not space-capable merely because they are pressurized.~~
	* '''Pressurized space-capable craft:''' [[E-10 Saint\|E-10]], [[E-11 Saint\|E-11]], [[P-13 Prowler\|P-13]] and [[W-6 Manx\|W-6]]. They carry stored breathing gases for operation in thin atmosphere and vacuum.

	~~See [[ECS#Vehicle~~ pressure arrangements~~\|ECS vehicle pressure arrangements]] for carrier bays~~, ~~passenger modules, suits~~, automatic cabin control and warnings. ~~Surface residents live near local ambient pressure in conditioned air;~~ see [[Vieneo#Living on Vieneo\|Living on Vieneo]] and [[:Category:Deois#Living in Deois\|Living in Deois]].

	[[Category:Rise Universe]]		[[Category:Rise Universe]]

W-6 Manx

codex — Sun, 01 Nov 2026 13:33:13 GMT